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Sampo
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Introduction Reply with quote

Hi everybody. I guess I donít have anything of substance to say today, so Iíll talk about myself. Heh.

Sampo is my real name (my usual screen name Sammo was taken on this forum). I am from southern Finland but planning to relocate to Switzerland for awhile with my family. I have played guitar since I was 13, mostly because of Eddie Van Halen. I first heard Robben from Guitar Playerís sound page in í88. That was of turning point for me Ė I became life long RF fan and my Dumble tone quest started. I still try to play everyday, but itís not always possible. I used to have Gear Acquisition Syndrome, but itís getting better. My most Robben Ford -like setup is í85 Fender Esprit and Fuchs-modded Traynor, but I actually prefer my hollow body Tyler SE and Ethos pedal to get my tones.

In addition to Robben and EVH, I really love jazz and especially jazz guitar (Joe Pass, Benson, Wes, Ted Greene ...), good pop (Steely Dan, Bruce Hornsby, late Kevin Gilbert) and studio greats (Mike Landau, Dann Huff, Tim Pierce, Lukather).

Some random facts by numbers:

- 5. Times I have seen Robben play live. Or number of 'Dumblish' boutique overdrive pedals I've had over the years.
- 7. Number of strings on my archtop.
- 8. Years it took to finish my masterís thesis. Not fulltime, though.
- 36. My age.
- 4 300 000. Records sold collectively by two bass players I used to play with in secondary school. At least.
- 0. Records sold by me.

My favorite Robben Ford Ėlick (in G):

E---------------------------------17-13-----15-12----13-12-11-10- etc----I
B-----------------------------------------15--------13--------------------------I
G------------------------17-14--------------------------------------------------I
D---------------17-15-----------------------------------------------------------I
A---\14--------------------------------------------------------------------------I
E----------------------------------------------------------------------------------I

Thanks for listening and best regards,
Sampo
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diatonicdude
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Sampo,

welcome to the board (along time over due by the look of things!).

I like your style of introduction Cool , in particular the RF lick!

Which lick is this (I haven't got my guitar at hand)?

Enjoy your time here.

All the best,

DD
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diatonicdude wrote:
Hi Sampo,
I like your style of introduction Cool , in particular the RF lick!

Which lick is this (I haven't got my guitar at hand)?

Thanks DD!!

The lick is from the ending of the Revelation. I was thinking the other day that there are only so few licks that Robben seems to play, as opposed to melodic snippets (like the quote from Jean Pierre that Robben likes to play live especially) or ideas like arpeggios, diminished scale or melodic minor use. Anyway, that Revelation-lick seems to be one of the few -- I have DVD with Russell Ferrante, Koono, Will Lee and Bob Malach where Robben plays same lick it over B-section chords and then again variation of that lick over A-section.

I admit I have stolen it and use it shamelessly.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, and welcome to the forum! Seven strings on the archtop? Nice! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Hurtt wrote:
Hi, and welcome to the forum! Seven strings on the archtop? Nice! Very Happy


Thanks Ian!

Seventh string is actually nice -- it requires a lot of work, though. I am at point when it doesn't bother or too hinder too much anymore. I still need a lot of more work to utilize it to the fullest (my fullest, at least) potential. Only trade off I can think, is that I cannot use my thumb to play bass notes over the edge of fingerboard.

Picture of her is here (taken by previous owner):



While I am at it, here is Esprit. As you can see, the pickups are replaced and there is added coil splitter.



And Tyler:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice instruments !
Quite interesting to hear that you favor the Ethos over the Fuchs mod you have. Could you explain why ?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PierreL wrote:
Nice instruments !
Quite interesting to hear that you favor the Ethos over the Fuchs mod you have. Could you explain why ?


Hi Pierre !!

First, my Fuchs is from 2001 and it's quite old and not up to current specs. It has footswitchable OD, boost, midboost and reverb and also has post-overdrive tone stack (I have it disconected, though). I actually DO love it, but by design I cannot balance bright enough clean tone and fat lead tone without some tweaking because of the shared EQ and bright, deep and Jazz/Rock switches. I can use MIDI switcher for boost and midboost and it definately helps. Also, as any tube amp, it needs enough volume to open up. And it is really pedal friendly.

Ethos, on the other hand, has separate EQ, bright and Jazz/Rock switches on both channels, so it helps to balance clean and od tone. There is some low-end loss compared to Fuchs but actually I can get nicer top-end from the pedal. I think that Ethos responds really amp-like and I can almost get clean sound from OD-channel if I pick really soft. The other pedals I have tried never did well in this department. Only negative I have found, is that there seems to be some weird modulation stuff going on with transients when I pick really hard. It's not big deal and it gets masked when there are other instruments.

Maybe I should have said that my favorite tone is Ethos through clean channel of the Fuchs, but it's still great through my Boogie combo which I use on gigs and jams.

I have not tried Zen Drive which clearly is THE pedal to cop modern Dumble-like tones, but I tend to gravitate more to late 80's/early '90s Dumble tones like hear in Blue Line and Carltons Last Night and On Solid Ground and there Ethos really shines. Also, it can do "EJ/violin tone"-impression when gain is maxed. Highly recommended!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the 'My favorite Robben Ford lick' idea. Maybe we should start a thread where we can all ad our favorite RF licks...
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Ian Hurtt
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sampo wrote:
PierreL wrote:
Nice instruments !
Quite interesting to hear that you favor the Ethos over the Fuchs mod you have. Could you explain why ?


Hi Pierre !!

First, my Fuchs is from 2001 and it's quite old and not up to current specs. It has footswitchable OD, boost, midboost and reverb and also has post-overdrive tone stack (I have it disconected, though). I actually DO love it, but by design I cannot balance bright enough clean tone and fat lead tone without some tweaking because of the shared EQ and bright, deep and Jazz/Rock switches. I can use MIDI switcher for boost and midboost and it definately helps. Also, as any tube amp, it needs enough volume to open up. And it is really pedal friendly.

Ethos, on the other hand, has separate EQ, bright and Jazz/Rock switches on both channels, so it helps to balance clean and od tone. There is some low-end loss compared to Fuchs but actually I can get nicer top-end from the pedal. I think that Ethos responds really amp-like and I can almost get clean sound from OD-channel if I pick really soft. The other pedals I have tried never did well in this department. Only negative I have found, is that there seems to be some weird modulation stuff going on with transients when I pick really hard. It's not big deal and it gets masked when there are other instruments.

Maybe I should have said that my favorite tone is Ethos through clean channel of the Fuchs, but it's still great through my Boogie combo which I use on gigs and jams.

I have not tried Zen Drive which clearly is THE pedal to cop modern Dumble-like tones, but I tend to gravitate more to late 80's/early '90s Dumble tones like hear in Blue Line and Carltons Last Night and On Solid Ground and there Ethos really shines. Also, it can do "EJ/violin tone"-impression when gain is maxed. Highly recommended!


Loved the pics, especially that cool looking Tyler. What's the official color for that? Cool I also had an old Fuchs mod, pretty cool little amp but I let it go as it just didn't get enough play. I can cop pretty good RF tones with my Zendrive, though so that was one of the reasons for kicking it loose.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian Hurtt wrote:

Loved the pics, especially that cool looking Tyler. What's the official color for that? Cool I also had an old Fuchs mod, pretty cool little amp but I let it go as it just didn't get enough play. I can cop pretty good RF tones with my Zendrive, though so that was one of the reasons for kicking it loose.


Ian,

Official color for Tyler is "Purple Gloss Smear", but I guess it's widely known as "Pelican Sh*t Smear" for some reason, heh.

I am actually warming to HRM-type tones since the Truth-cd came out and I probably will ge Zendrive someday, too. And play with those internal trimmers inside the Fuchs, for once!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jconstant wrote:
I love the 'My favorite Robben Ford lick' idea. Maybe we should start a thread where we can all ad our favorite RF licks...


I second the suggestion for a RF lick thread. Only, please type the notes very slowly for us speed-challenged guitar player wannabe's... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sampo wrote:
Ian Hurtt wrote:

Loved the pics, especially that cool looking Tyler. What's the official color for that? Cool I also had an old Fuchs mod, pretty cool little amp but I let it go as it just didn't get enough play. I can cop pretty good RF tones with my Zendrive, though so that was one of the reasons for kicking it loose.


Ian,

Official color for Tyler is "Purple Gloss Smear", but I guess it's widely known as "Pelican Sh*t Smear" for some reason, heh.

I am actually warming to HRM-type tones since the Truth-cd came out and I probably will ge Zendrive someday, too. And play with those internal trimmers inside the Fuchs, for once!


Nice! Thanks!! Laughing
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