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fusion58



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:22 am    Post subject: York Audio KW 412 M25-SH IR Pack Reply with quote

Hi Scott:

Just learned about the new York Audio IR pack modeled on your Kerry Wright cab on your IG page, and I canít wait to try it out!

Question: Which IR loader are you currently using for recording?

IIRC, you were using MixIR last I checked. However, unfortunately, I just upgraded to an Apple Silicon Mac, (M2 Pro) and MixIR3 isnít working in Digital Performer 11 for me, so Iím looking for alternatives.

Thanks, and Iím eagerly awaiting the release of the new record. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could help but I'm on a 2013 Mac Pro and using mixIR2. There must be something out there, but unfortunately many companies can't keep up with Apple's obsession with progress. I'd ask Justin York - he's using ProTools but I think his system is way more up to date than mine. Just make sure that whatever you get can play 500ms IR's - that's important because you lose bass with shorter IRs.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Scott.
Yesterday, soon after having read your post on FB, I got my York Audio KW pack, and today I've used a bunch of the included IRs (there are a lot of them, well worth the money) for a quick test, a short demo, using my Germino Club 40 head (a JTM 45 handmade clone) straight into my Mac (a 2011 Macbook pro with High Sierra IOs), running the IRs on a Two Notes Torpedo Wall Of Sound plug-in.
Wow, these IRs sound incredibly realistic.
The tone is rich, deep, crispy and with well rounded basses.
Very well balanced across the whole tone spectrum so that no further EQ adjustment was needed to sit in the mix.
They sound incredibly good both on clean and overdriven parts.
A dream come true!
Many thanks for giving us such a valuable resource
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, happy to hear that! One suggestion - try them using mixIR2 or mixIR3. Wall Of Sound (as I remember) can't play 500ms IRs, so they're being truncated and you're losing bass. mixIR goes all the way to 8000ms, so it can play IRs, reverbs and just about any of those type effects.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Thumberstrummer"]Hi Scott.
Yesterday, soon after having read your post on FB, I got my York Audio KW pack, and today I've used a bunch of the included IRs (there are a lot of them, well worth the money) for a quick test, a short demo, using my Germino Club 40 head (a JTM 45 handmade clone) straight into my Mac (a 2011 Macbook pro with High Sierra IOs), running the IRs on a Two Notes Torpedo Wall Of Sound plug-in.
Wow, these IRs sound incredibly realistic.
The tone is rich, deep, crispy and with well rounded basses.
Very well balanced across the whole tone spectrum so that no further EQ adjustment was needed to sit in the mix.
They sound incredibly good both on clean and overdriven parts.
A dream come true!
Many thanks for giving us such a valuable resource[/quote]


Thumberstrummer

I notice exactly the same thing.
Compared to other 4x12 irs they are really clear. I donít feel any need to eq them. Some of the other ir brands sound muddy but if you boost treble they sound too bright. These KW ones are perfectly balanced to begin with.
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Henderson wrote:
Thanks, happy to hear that! One suggestion - try them using mixIR2 or mixIR3. Wall Of Sound (as I remember) can't play 500ms IRs, so they're being truncated and you're losing bass. mixIR goes all the way to 8000ms, so it can play IRs, reverbs and just about any of those type effects.


Correct.

I e-mailed Two Notes support, and the rep confirmed that not even the most recent version of Wall of Sound supports 500ms IRs. 'Tis a bummer, as I really like the plugin aside from that particular shortcoming.

BTW, Scott, on the subject of IR loaders, have you tried Celestion Speaker Mix Pro? If so, I'd be interested in hearing your take.

Pete Thorn demo:

https://youtu.be/MM-4GmvYnHg
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did try Celestion Speaker Mix Pro and I didn't like it. The problem with this type of software is the algorithms are too complex - like having an amp with a million knobs on it - usually the simpler an amp is, the better it sounds.

I tried one of my favorite York Audio IRs (this was before he did the SH pack), it was a 4x12 Greenback IR. I listened to it in mixIR2 and in Celestion Speaker Mix Pro. Not even a contest - that software ruined it. I don't know why the engineers can't hear it, but they must not be doing comparisons. WOS is even worse - when you truncate a 500ms IR, it's toast - the low end just goes away.
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