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IMPROVISING OVER SLASH CHORDS

 
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AxeBox



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: IMPROVISING OVER SLASH CHORDS Reply with quote

Greetings. I was figuring out the changes to Ana Maria and encountered several slash chords.

How about the Ab/C and Bb/C in succession? Can you treat the Ab/C like a simple Ab whose bass note is its third? How about the D/C -- can that be treated as a simple A7?

Is there a way to play outside such chords?

It's funny, but I hear something else when these chords are played. It looks like an F natural minor can be played over the Ab/C-Bb/C chords, but I figured this out only by ear. Is there a simple way of determining the proper scale for such chords?

Thanks in advance.
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vladorg



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi AxeBox,
Ab/C is pretty much what you thought an Ab with the 3rd in the bass and it also can be viewed as a Fm7 with the 5th in the bass.Bb/C I would consider the same as a Cm11 chord and together Ab/C and Bb/C are diatonic in Eb major,so you're rigt you could play F Dorian or Melodic Minor over them.D/C I consider as C Lydian chord voicing(like Cmaj7 with a 6th and a 9th and a raised 11th if you wish)and you can naturally play C lydian over it.Hope this helped,

Vlad
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AxeBox



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, vladorg, I'll keep that in mind. I will be experimenting with your info as soon as I get the chance to.
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russ



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the above mentioned Bb/C functions as a C dominant - it's actually a C11 without a 3rd. C = root Bb = b7 D = 9 F = 11.
All the soloing material that works over dominant chords will work here, including "outside" stuff, depending on what you're after.
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fusion58



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a slash chord concept which has always helped me:

There are basically four types of slash chords:

1) Incomplete extended chords.

Example: G/C = CMA9 with no third. (See the Bb/C example given by Russ also.)

2) Misspelled 7th chords.

Example: C/A = Ami7

3) Inversions.

Example: E/G# = E triad (first inversion)

4) Weird chords that are difficult to symbolize in a conventional way.

Example: C/C# = C(b9) [Sometimes subbed for C7(b9) ]
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theox



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

russ wrote:
Actually, the above mentioned Bb/C functions as a C dominant - it's actually a C11 without a 3rd. C = root Bb = b7 D = 9 F = 11.
All the soloing material that works over dominant chords will work here, including "outside" stuff, depending on what you're after.


I'd say that F = 4 and call it a C9sus. But Bb/C is quite commonly used nowadays.
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