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Subject: NGD!!!!!!FIRE &amp;amp;amp; WATER!!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:52 am (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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	<title>Suhr Artists Section :: RE: Peter Gusmano - Suhr Standard New Video Clip</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28478#28478</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1115&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;suhrshred&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:55 am (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Pete
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Much thanks...
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Your stuff is truly awesome as well and I am picking up the cds.  Monster playing
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Best
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	<title>Suhr Artists Section :: RE: Peter Gusmano - Suhr Standard New Video Clip</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28477#28477</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2356&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;JediHalen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:10 am (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Boy!... you have been busy.
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Well done Pete, Its a great thing your doing and I wish you all the success with it. Will try and snag a copy for myself in the coming days.
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Very cool stuff &lt;img src=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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Pete.
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vendetta-theband.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.vendetta-theband.com&lt;/a&gt;
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: Is it possible for Suhr to do a color like this</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28476#28476</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2419&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;izzy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:37 am (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;definitely 3tsflame
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: Is it possible for Suhr to do a color like this</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28475#28475</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2451&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;nhgtrman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:36 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;does anyone know the exact name of the color seen in this link on the Modern?
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://gallery.me.com/paul_warren#100045&amp;amp;view=grid&amp;amp;bgcolor=black&amp;amp;sel=10&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://gallery.me.com/paul_warren#100045&amp;amp;view=grid&amp;amp;bgcolor=black&amp;amp;sel=10&lt;/a&gt;
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I think it's the 3ts flame but i'm not sure, thanks in advance if you know. 
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: Rasmus - Which side of the fence are you?</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28474#28474</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=985&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:57 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;quote:
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&amp;quot;America.... Anti-Corporate........ wow....&amp;quot; 
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Sorry, that was sloppy shorthand for a kind of corporatism that Suhr Guitars stands apart from.   There are companies, obviously, that put a lot of considerations ahead of the love of their craft.   Think CBS Fender to get an idea of the kind of corporatism I had in mind.
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: Rasmus - Which side of the fence are you?</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28473#28473</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=985&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:27 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;quoting you:
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&amp;quot;It takes Brass Balls to walk into the Suhr forum and
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basically tell them they have destroyed their business.&amp;quot;
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&amp;quot;What most of this boils down to for Some people is their fear that 
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Rasmus will make their Custom Suhr guitars less cool to show off, 
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which in turn makes the owner less cool. 
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In typical American fashion they want something better than everone else has and in particular more expensive.&amp;quot;
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I value great guitars, pure and simple.  Suhr's are pretty darn good.   I found a few things about them that I prefer relative to other manufacturers.   I'm most enthused when I see this company innovate and put custom care into their works.  I've bought a small collection of Suhrs, so I'm just, belatedly it seems, expressing my opinion about this development.
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: Rasmus - Which side of the fence are you?</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28472#28472</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=985&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:11 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Mart wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;GB - this is not a personal attack. The beauty of an open forum like this is that we can all give our own opinion. And this is just mine :
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I find the statement &amp;quot;Made in China is belittling, and it will be contagious to the whole line &amp;quot;, baffling. As John and Ed have stated in other threads, the effect is to enable them to grow as a company; to enable them to continue to develop new ideas and new models for those who can afford the top end models, to provide cheaper but top quality guitars in the mid range sector and to actually create more jobs in the USA because of this.
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I see only positives for the future and dont understand how any of the plans mean that a Suhr guitar will somehow end up worse.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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This is going to create more jobs in the USA?  Which kinds of jobs?  Administrative?  Warehousing?  Marketing? Sales?  I think the best jobs are the ones building the guitars.  I'm sure there are some nice people over in China who will really get a shot in the arms from these contracts, but I never really pictured China as the home of electrified rock music. 
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To each to his own, but the Made-in-America thing was a key aspect to this brand for me.     It meant a lot to me, knowing the owner was on-site at the manufacturing plant, and that the artisans were American rock enthusiasts.   Sure, I love my Suhr guitars, but I also like supporting institutions that lift my spirits, stay true, and do cool r&amp;amp;d.
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	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28471#28471</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=985&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;gb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:06 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;And to try to compare your gripe to being a musician, its folly because a true musician wants everyone to experience their music, not just the rich.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;
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Rich?  You don't have to be rich to buy a Suhr.   You don't need a Suhr to make great music, but as a tool, it does have its advantages.   A good musician is going to sound just fine with an American Standard Strat though, don't you think?
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There's an idea of 'absentee ownership'.  Typically, a manufacturer is going to make a better product when its owner is engaged, on the case, and personally invested in every stage of production.   Diluting the chief luthier's name, time, and resources on an offshore product is discouraging me.  I would have been more psyched if I heard they'd gone into production on a 12 string Mustang or something like that.
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I liked the idea of a Santa's workshop, where like-minded, dedicated artisans would build guitars alongside Suhr, under his name, the modern incarnation of Leo Fender's company.
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Ok, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'll eat my words, and hey I wouldn't mind one of these Rasmus guitars either, as a spare.
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	<title>Suhr Guitar Talk :: RE: My guitar has been completed!!!White and gold glory!!!</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28470#28470</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1799&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;eugeneelgr&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:57 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Hey whats a black widow?Sorry but if you were referencing bcrich my guitar is NOT pointy at all &lt;img src=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;
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	<title>Suhr Amp Talk :: RE: Build Date of Badger 18W Combo.</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28469#28469</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1422&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sabat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:25 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Congrats on the Badger. I was just down at Boutique Guitar Exchange demoing a 30. I already have the 18 and wanted to see the real difference. Looks like I just need to have both. Anywho, I can't help date it for you, but I'm sure if you really really wanted to know you could call the guys up and ask. Enjoy the amp.
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	<title>Suhr Amp Talk :: RE: Badger 18 or 30!</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28468#28468</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2008&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;starswimmer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:18 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I have had both 18 and 30. You aren't going to get any STP or Metallica heavy out of either of those  amps without pedals. I would suggest the 30 as it sounds a little bigger and bolder. Tighter than the 18. Plus the added head room will be good with a pedal like the riot. I think you will find the 18 too squishy and loose in the bottom for those tones.
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I vote riot with the Badger 30.
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But if you want to do it right get yerself a PT50/100.
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	<title>Suhr Artists Section :: RE: Peter Gusmano - Suhr Standard New Video Clip</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28467#28467</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1115&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;suhrshred&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:18 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Trev
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Thanks so much
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Yes I hv had some comment son my Blog from Becker
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He is a special guy!
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	<title>Open Discussion :: RE: Red Bear Picks - Unbelievable!</title>
	<link>http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/viewtopic.php?p=28466#28466</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2008&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;starswimmer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:02 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;I have the Red Bear tuff tone picks (2) I keep going back to them. I'll play another for a bit and be ok with it, but will gravitate back to the Red Bear. All around it sounds better to my ears. I'll have to bite the bullet and try one of the regular picks soon.
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There are a few things I have settled on in my sound/rig - 
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Suhr PT50
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Suhr S1 strat
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Elixir strings and instrument cable
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Line 6 M13 for most effects with expression pedals
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Scumback speakers (M75)
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and...Red Bear tuff tone pick. 
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these are the things I feel most solid about though I use a bunch of other stuff as well.
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	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://online-discussion.com/Suhr/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2419&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;izzy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:51 pm (GMT -7)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;tinypic.com is a good site for quick/ez posting of pix, I used it all the time
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